From Message Kevin 3/07/2005 11:20:53 Subject: monday monday Six o'clock already I was just in the middle of a dream I was kissin' Valentino By a crystal blue Italian stream But I can't be late 'Cause then I guess I just won't get paid These are the days When you wish your bed was already made It's just another manic Monday I wish it was Sunday 'Cause that's my funday My I don't have to runday It's just another manic Monday Have to catch an early train Got to be to work by nine And if I had an air-o-plane I still couldn't make it on time 'Cause it takes me so long Just to figure out what I'm gonna wear Blame it on the train But the boss is already there All of the nights Why did my lover have to pick last night To get down Doesn't it matter That I have to feed the both of us Employment's down He tells me in his bedroom voice C'mon honey, let's go make some noise Time it goes so fast When you're having fun (everything in this song is my life....except i don't feed both of us and i wanted to have sex) (hello oscillation...what is your real name?) Oscillation 3/07/2005 11:58:11 RE: monday monday Don't ever visit Dubuque, Iowa. It contains the most nasty and dirty gay bar that you could find on the planet. The boys are unbelieveably cruel to each other and if you are somewhat new, they'll make your life a living nightmare. And it leads me to this . . . On Friday I was there once again and after a couple of Martinis somebody (whom I don't remember even seeing there) thought it would be funny to trip me as I was walking past them. I fell flat on my face and before I could pick myself up and figure out who exactly had done such a thing to me, the bar owner was bouncing me out. This was after one drink (for I don't remember even making it through the second one). The story is even more filthy when I take into consideration that TWO men over the age of 50 thought is would be fun to grab fist fulls of my buttocks no less the five minutes after walking through the front door. I'm so humiliated that I don't even figure out how to cry. Please boycott this bar: One Flight Up. I Despise This Monday, The Boy With a Thorn in His Side (Matthew) kevin 3/07/2005 12:30:03 RE: monday monday cheer up oscillation, and move to chicago, where the boys just give you glares instead of tripping you. the 50+ crowd that grabs asses is unfortunately everywhere, so that is just something to come to grips with (like your ass). and i can only imagine what a gay bar in dubuque is like...aieeeeee! there was one in boulder, and it was like a piece of me died everytime i went there...though i did meet a guy who was into SCI...went back, had a good time...but overall, GROSS! (hi matthew) Oscillation 3/07/2005 13:04:03 RE: monday monday I guess this area is kind of cool because we have Galena. Lots of cruising there but they're all tourists that don't stay longer than two days. I fled Chicago for this area so I'm definately not going back any time soon (except for the music). This area is absolutely beautiful place to live but there is the unfortunate trade off I had to make with the locals. Not being able to escape the wrath of individuals that you've had relationships with because it's such a small population is really stressful. Dare I say that I miss the 'pleasentness' of suburbia. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side JUBAL 3/07/2005 13:14:19 RE: monday monday why do gay men feel the need to be mean to eachother. ill never get it. i mean, i understand the motives, but get the fuck over it. oscillation, i urge you to get a well articulated statement ready for yourself to fight the pathetic ones. or just ignore them and laugh. ((hugs from a non bitter boy)) Oscillation 3/07/2005 13:32:58 RE: monday monday The real reason why I was bounced out of there was probably because the owner thought I would come up swinging (which I didn't). I'm really livid about this, though. I try so damn hard to be good phamily (in a manner of speaking) and then I get nailed with that only to look like a major drunken fool. It happned so darn fast that probably of the people who saw it happen, there were only one or two that saw the person actually tripping me. Therefore, it's safe to say that I was made to look like a flailing drunk. I had a pounding headache the next day (probably from the mild concussion) and can't remember about 45 minutes of what happened. My head still hurts, actually. I also have a bruises on my arm from being pulled out of the place. This happened last Friday night and it is the last thing that I would expect from a gay bar. Either I'm extremely naive or dumber than a box of rocks. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side JUBAL 3/07/2005 13:49:12 RE: monday monday gay men with low self worth are the biggest bitches. mayhaps this was the case? or were you just walking around the place saying, "this place sucks! this place is soooo slow!!!!" cause i could see wanting to trip you then. ;-) Oscillation 3/07/2005 14:08:20 RE: monday monday Actually, I'm saving all my "this place sucks, I hate it here, I'm gonna slit my wrists" STUFF for the Trey shows in Milwaukee and Chicago. Don't ask me why I go out of my way the guy. :) ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side (More sympathy, please) JUBAL 3/07/2005 14:32:29 RE: monday monday sympathy bus stops here. dont bitch about trey shows at the show if you already know youre gonna hate it. some people still enjoy it. and dont ya just hate it when someone is being a buzzkill right next to you at a show? so, in short, save the bitching and wrist slitting for the bathroom or for immolation ceremonies in front of the white house, please. Oscillation 3/07/2005 15:02:46 RE: monday monday Uummmmm . . . sarcasm? You have to know I'm sitting here foaming at the mouth for more of him. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side Oscillation 3/07/2005 15:08:23 RE: monday monday My head hurts so badly right now. Is there any way to get even with the faceless monster that did this to me last Friday? Suggestions would be wonderful as long as they are constructive. No eye for an eye revenge, please. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side JUBAL 3/07/2005 15:35:12 RE: monday monday i sugeest tripping everyone that walks in the door of that gay bar. and you might also scream out to passing cars as the patrons leave the bar, "that guy is gay and drunk!!!!" Oscillation 3/07/2005 15:38:51 RE: monday monday I couldn't bring myself down that low. Sorry, Jew Ball. ;-) ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side JUBAL 3/07/2005 15:42:02 RE: monday monday oh, i bet you can. and its jubal. dont know why you would make such a spelling error. Oscillation 3/07/2005 15:56:06 RE: monday monday I thought I'd seen it spelled that way somewhere around here before. I'm still so very depressed. The ony gay bar in the area that I live in and I'll never go back. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side jubal 3/07/2005 16:01:16 RE: monday monday you must move from iowa! notice i DID NOT capitolize iowa. there is a reason. it may be beautiful, but there are plenty of places around with mid western topography that have more of the gay element. i believe your "state" neighbors one called illinois. try that one. or try some mountains on for size. but seriously, have you gone to the hospital? sounds like you may have really hurt your noggin. Oscillation 3/07/2005 16:11:12 RE: monday monday i-I o-oughta w-went a-around No hospital for me. It was a concussion and all they would have done was sent me home with some tylenol. I've already lived in Illinois and Oregon. I'm not moving anywhere else. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side Oscillation 3/07/2005 16:13:14 RE: monday monday Oh yeah, and why is it that you don't capitalize I? ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side JUBAL 3/07/2005 16:14:15 RE: monday monday how could you leave oregon? strange. i think your head condition must be a pre existing condition now. dont let those morons make you depressed! how childish is it to trip someone anyway? you can rest assured they have a life of hell if they spend their time acting like that. i still say move! JUBAL 3/07/2005 16:37:33 RE: monday monday lack of capitolization reflects my general didain for any certain thing. like i refuse to capitolize "i" i dont take my self that seriously jubal 3/07/2005 16:43:30 RE: monday monday um....that would be "disdain" Oscillation 3/07/2005 16:54:34 RE: monday monday Google Galena, IL. It might provide answers for why I stick around this area. Kevin might also be able to back me up on this one if he's been there. It's touristy but if you live here, it's like a country club. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side chansky 3/07/2005 19:03:47 RE: monday monday osc--so sorry you had to deal with those bitchy queens. that was one thing that i really disliked about st. louis that the boys thought they were the shit and that they were the end all and be all of gay culture. But then i noticed that they were little bitches working at steak and shake, doing meth on the weekends and had low self esteem and had to take it out on other people. as for the older men ass grab i haven't really experienced that here in sf, but in stl it was rampant in the central west end and soulard, i mean i would walk out of a coffee shop at 4pm and two old guys would just grab my ass, pissed me off so much, i once turned around and yelled "rapist...you gave me gonerreah...etc" and they got red. so i think jubal has a good point of just getting a response for that kind of shit because those nasty old fags are just a matter of life, just have to yell back at them to make them feel uncomfortable. as for dealing with the only gay bar in town, get the fuckout of iowa, seriously, sf, nyc, portland, chi-town, even oakland (jk...much love for the oakland crew) but the culture out here is so much more loving and less pretentious tripping, throwing out of bars, ass grabbing. best thing to do, find out where those little douche's live and egg and/or toilet paper thier house/apt/car/truck/donkey thats what i did in stl with the jew mafia and it was great, nothing feels better for revenge than a rotten egg cooking in the sunlight on car windows, trust me. -michael raab 3/07/2005 19:14:36 RE: monday monday jew mafia !? jubal 3/07/2005 19:53:12 RE: monday monday i bet that was the prettiest mafia to ever grace the planet. grrrrr. JJ 3/07/2005 20:00:42 RE: monday monday Chansk, I would like to hear more about this Jew Mafia. I am interested in joining or getting made or however it is done. Seriously, I can guilt a man into paying his debts any day ;0 JUBAL 3/07/2005 20:21:51 RE: monday monday JJ, tell us about the coercive methods you use when the guilt tactic doesnt work, will ya? i think i need to get back to that bed with the boy in it that i mentioned earlier... kevin 3/07/2005 22:24:27 RE: monday monday my boyfriend's father is the godfather of the jew mafia...no, like for real JJ 3/07/2005 22:28:59 RE: monday monday When the guilt isn't working I sick my mother onto them who will then nag and berade them and remind them of her painful labor expierience until finally, the debtor's spirit is broken. At which time she hugs them and tells him how special he is. She might even offer up a breast. jubal 3/07/2005 22:35:42 RE: monday monday damn damn damn!!!! why did you do that to my image processors, JJ??? why why why??? i didnt know what i was asking for, i guess. Moma John 3/07/2005 22:42:42 RE: monday monday Jew Mafia? Hahaha... what a concept. i am going to have to ask my friends at NYJew about this. I may have heard about it before and just not remember. I was always under the impression from my Italian and Russian cousins that those were the only real "mafias," but then again, it's not like any one of them acknowledges the existence of any mafias... i just realized how the k-pins make me ramble... so i am going to stop, haha JJ 3/07/2005 23:49:00 RE: monday monday San Francisco has it's own Mafia... The Gay Mafia... There are those who don't beleave but they are the ones who don't know what they are missing... Oscillation 3/08/2005 08:49:51 RE: monday monday My head still hurts. I wish the human brain had more padding. I'm surprised I didn't have a siezure right there on the bar floor. Hmmm. . . . Chansky's statement about St. Louis is certainly on par with the shit that goes on around here except its worse in the sense because the gays around here are ultra closeted and wouldn't be caught dead grabbing asses in the street therefore leaving that sort of behavior to private places like the one and only gay bar and the one and only porn shop (slurpies galore there). In fact, this place is so backwoods that the city council recently voted NO for the fourth time in ten years on including sexual orientation under the umbrella which covers harrasment in the workplace. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side Moma John 3/08/2005 09:05:51 RE: monday monday Now the Gay Mafia is something I could get into, haha Oscillation 3/08/2005 09:36:12 RE: monday monday Oh God. Don't open this can of worms, please. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side chansky 3/08/2005 20:25:06 RE: monday monday okay so just to clarify the jew mafia was a bunch of us pre-college high school boys getting really drunk after school and egging peoples house because they were fuck-heads--last time to make a comment about hippies smelling. yeah don't fuck with the meesh-short for meeshpacha--which means family in hebrew. gay mafia--hmmm--just make sure you know your colors, the diff of magenta and red, or else. -michael jubal 3/08/2005 23:42:22 RE: monday monday osc, why dont you move to iwoa city? it has the highest (or used to) gay per capita rating in the states a few years back. the city rox! JJ 3/09/2005 14:24:02 RE: monday monday Finding a 1988 copy of Guitar Player Masgazine which featured Jerry Garcia on the cover. My boy and I stayed up late reading every word of every article. It also had what might be the best interview with him that I have ever read. He was such an intellectual musician. There was a reason for everything he ever did technique- wise. raab 3/09/2005 15:27:16 RE: monday monday Uncle JJ, I think you're in the wrong room. The 'happy today' thread is next door... JJ 3/09/2005 15:30:53 RE: monday monday Thank's Raab... That's how happy I am today... I don't even know what room I'm in :) Oscillation 3/10/2005 10:33:14 RE: monday monday Iowa City doesn't need me, jubal. Dubuque, Iowa needs me. (don't mean to sound pompous), The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 10:46:23 RE: monday monday oscillation, taking one for the team again....continue to push the envelope back into the country Oscillation 3/10/2005 11:12:49 RE: monday monday It's nice to know someone is on the same page as I. In a way, it's like direct action, isn't it?Thanks Kevin. I'm Gonna Watch Ghandi Today, The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 11:29:19 RE: monday monday i'm taking it all the way to Watertown, SD! Oscillation 3/10/2005 11:41:55 RE: monday monday Where the hell is that? ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 12:33:29 RE: monday monday where my farm is Oscillation 3/10/2005 12:38:18 RE: monday monday Lucky man. Interested in refinancing it? ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 13:00:04 RE: monday monday huh? no, i just let my cousins farm it...it is just 40 acres, like everyone else's in the fam...since i am not using it i let my cuz do his thang Oscillation 3/10/2005 13:05:58 RE: monday monday That's mighty kind of you. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 13:12:49 RE: monday monday well, it's family, moreover it's south dakotan family Oscillation 3/10/2005 13:19:13 RE: monday monday I just googled a map of it. I've driven through there before. I think it was when I was coming back from the Gorge in 97'. I was crazy tired because I was the only one in the caravan that could drive a stick shift vehicle and was literally stuck driving the entire time. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side kevin 3/10/2005 13:20:39 RE: monday monday yeah i know...you don't remember? i was the little boy who waved to you while you sped through my town Oscillation 3/10/2005 14:11:34 RE: monday monday There were some really pretty spots in there. I liked the pallisade thingies south of there on the river. It was hard to see, though because the sun was rising and I was blinded by its light. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side Oscillation 3/10/2005 15:10:36 RE: monday monday Yummy . . . . just had a portabela mozerella basil on fancy bread sandwich from the Panera Bread Company. My tummy is now satsified. ** The Boy With a Thorn in His Side Post a reply to this message: Name: Email: Notify me when I get a reply to my message:Yes  No Subject: Message:

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